Cradle Orthodox Life Has Changed Dramatically in Just a Few Decades

New Orthodox missions are springing up all over that are almost entirely comprised of adult converts with their children. However, the majority of Orthodox parishes are still mixed between adult converts, immigrants, “ethnic cradles”, and the maturing group of “non-ethnic” cradles (a group that not too long ago didn’t really exist). In such mixed settings, some conflicts between groups exist that are troubling enough that we are wise to spend time understanding where all sides are coming from. It is particularly important to understand how things have changed over the course of just a few decades for those raised in the Orthodox Faith.

In that spirit, we are publishing the comment below from a cradle Orthodox Christian as a stand-alone article. It was originally posted to The Orthodox Bishops in the United States Act Culturally Illiterate. You can read the comment in context here. The poster used the pseudonym In Texas. Below the line is the comment, which makes some interesting points about, among other things, the cultural attitudes ethnic cradles were taught by their immigrant parents.

Without any intention to do so, Orthodoxy has ended up becoming “radical” in our American context by simply not changing core beliefs that, at one time, were considered mainstream in American culture. Far from signing up to fight in a “culture war”, it is clear that such a “war” was thrust upon the Church as American culture unexpectedly shifted in ways Orthodoxy cannot accept. Instead of seeking to “blend in” as aspirational Americans, today’s Orthodox Christians have to be more and more willing to “stick out”.

—OR Staff


In Texas wrote:

I would argue that the Orthodox Church in America at least somewhat does what you are suggesting, probably more so than any other Orthodox jurisdiction in the United States, precisely because it has been dedicated for some time to being the “local indigenous Orthodox Church in North America,” with all the baggage that such a responsibility brings.

I grew up Orthodox in PA, the son of Orthodox Christians whose job it to “survive and thrive.” Orthodox missionary work was not something even on the radar – in fact, it was considered distasteful to imply to the Methodists, Episcopalians, or Roman Catholics down the road that their faith may not be as full as ours. The unstated understanding was that this is their country, we are guests, and guests don’t behave like that. If a rare Presbyterian converted to Orthodox Christianity, that’s wonderful, but our job was not to make it easy for them.

These days, things are way different. Back then, the social perspective of Orthodox Christians was pretty much the same as the Methodists, Presbyterians, Roman Catholics, Episcopalians, etc – the goal for most people was married life which means one man and one woman; pornography and sexual immorality is bad; same-sex sexual activity is not intended by or blessed by God; self-control is virtuous; loving your neighbor is the ideal, etc. Everyone believed these things, except for the fringe lunatics. Now, it’s no exaggeration to say that only Orthodox Christians still believe these things – the cultural landscape has changed dramatically. Back then, nearly everyone went to some sort of church on Sunday. These days, most Americans don’t go to any church on Sunday.

Archbishop Elpidophoros is among those Orthodox Christian hierarchs who I’ve always referred to as WASP-wannabes…. basically they are foreign-born Orthodox hierarchs who perceive the pinnacle of American civilization as the white people who dominate CNN and the American Ivy League schools. Whatever they say and do is aspirational…. i.e., being like them is the goal.

I think this perception is a holdover from back in the day when we all culturally emulated traditional Episcopalians and other WASPs as the aspiration of what it meant to be an “ideal American.” Even Orthodox Christians did this. Problem is, traditional WASPs don’t exist anymore. But Archbishop Elpidophoros and other foreign born Orthodox hierarchs do not understand how the American cultural landscape has changed, I don’t think. Or they don’t care and just want to garner American riches to send back to the old country.

The Orthodox Church in America (and ROCOR and the Antiochians to some extent) seem to be the best jurisdictions at understanding the realities of what it means to be an American Orthodox Christian, at grasping how our history is so complex and has vast regional variations. The American people are not a people “to be used for our money, which are then sent back to the old country.” God does not bless “using” people as such, I’m pretty sure of it.

Archbishop Dmitri of blessed memory knew very well the unique history of the United States and of the American South. He grew the OCA Diocese of the South from a small missionary district of about 7 parishes (mostly in Florida and one in Dallas) to more than the 80 or so parishes it has today. A former Southern Baptist and native Texan, Archbishop Dmitri understood America way more than Orthodox hierarchs like Archbishop E do.

Fascinatingly, the OCA laity wanted Archbishop Dmitri to be the OCA First Hierarch/Metropolitan in 1977 after Metropolitan Ireney reposed. Archbishop Dmitri had the most votes by far at the All-American Council in 1977 – but the OCA Holy Synod seemed to think it was too soon for our small Orthodox Church in America (which was still very much dominated by American Slavs at that time) to have a non-Slavic First Hierarch, thus Metropolitan Theodosius (who came from a Slavic Orthodox family in western PA) became the new OCA Metropolitan and served as such for 25 years. Archbishop Dmitri then given the episcopal leadership of the newly-created “Diocese of the South.”

As they say, “he could have gone to Syosset to be Metropolitan, or to Dallas to become a Saint.” I for one, am thankful that the latter happened!!

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