Early on, practically everyone knew that the only COVID jabs available in the United States and Canada were linked to aborted fetal cells in some way.
Nevertheless, many Orthodox clergy, academics, and laity tried to defend the jabs using combinations of the following arguments.
- The harvesting occurred many decades ago, and the current cell lines have been replicated many times in labs. No more babies have been killed.
- The good done by the jabs outweighs the linkage to dead babies. The jabs will save lives in the here and now, which is more important than what was done to the babies decades ago.
- Aborted fetal cells are ubiquitous. We use medicines and products developed with them all the time, so this is no big deal.
- You have a moral obligation to take the jabs to protect others. It’s the Christian thing to do.
The first and second points above, for example, were critical to Orthodox bioethicist Dr. Gayle Woloschak’s defense of the jabs. See our response to her here.
The supposed ubiquitous use of aborted fetal cells was a key line of defense of the jabs by Orthodox physician Dr. Ryan Sampson Nash in his interviews with Ancient Faith Radio. The “we use a lot of evil things” has been so persuasive that even an Orthodox Pro-life Society defended the use of the jabs on that basis.
See the responses to Dr. Nash by an Orthodox physician and an Orthodox RN.
The last point is probably the most emphasized in Orthodox Christian circles. Even at the height of the panic, most people realized that COVID was really only dangerous to the elderly and those with significant co-morbidities. Taking the jabs made little sense to those in population groups that already had a 99.98% survival rate. To overcome that thorny problem of self-interest and increase “vaccine” uptake, more than one religious leader argued that you should take the jabs to stop the spread of COVID to the vulnerable – you should take the jabs to protect others in the name of Christ as an act of Christian charity. Typical of this argument is this statement from Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople:
“But it is not only a matter of necessity or choice; it is also a responsibility to fellow human beings. That is why I hope that a large part of the world’s population will soon be vaccinated for the spread of the deadly virus to stop. Of course, until then, we must all strictly observe the protective measures so as not to mourn more victims.”
If you didn’t get the jabs, you were a bad Christian who wanted to kill granny. At Orthodox Reflections, we never excused the use of jabs linked to abortion. We never will. However, at least early on it was understandable that many clergy might have sincerely believed taking the jabs would “save others.” After all, that was what all the “experts” were saying. This video on Twitter is a montage of important people telling you that if get the jabs, you won’t get sick and you won’t spread the virus. Granny will be saved!
Many Orthodox bishops, priests, academics, parish councils, and even laity are still using this argument. Only now, there is absolutely no excuse for it. The jabs don’t stop the spread. The jabs don’t protect you from getting sick. The jabs are dangerous. There is all cost and no benefit, unless you are one of the lucky ones making liability-free billions off the “vaccine gold rush.”
It is time to face a very unpleasant fact – millions of Orthodox Christians, including many bishops, sold out the Church’s teaching on abortion in exchange for nothing.
Weakening the position of the Church against abortion by endorsing the use of aborted fetal cells in medicines and other products is not only immoral, it is not even practically useful. This is becoming daily more apparent as the COVID narrative continues to collapse. If you are in an Orthodox leadership position, and you are still encouraging the jabs as a way to “love your neighbor”, please stop immediately. You are helping no one, and you could convince someone to take a course of action that can hurt them greatly. As more people wake up, there will be a monumental backlash against leaders who who have persisted in being wrong about COVID and the jabs. For the sake of the Gospel, change course now and preserve at least some credibility. Repentance is available to everyone, no matter how public was your mistake.
But don’t take our word for it. Let’s listen to an expert physician who has successfully treated hundreds of COVID patients. Dr. Peter McCullough is a famous cardiologist and epidemiologist in academic and medical practice in Dallas, Texas. Dr. McCullough was key in publishing in 2020 the first protocol for treating COVID. We have linked to several of Dr. McCullough’s videos here.
Dr. McCullough was recently on Joe Rogan’s podcast. The episode has been listened to over 40 million times. An Orthodox physician in Canada recommended the podcast, and was kind enough to highlight some of the most important parts in the notes below. The podcast is embedded, followed by some key points with additional commentary. Keep in mind, from the beginning there have been thousands of doctors and medical researchers who questioned the official COVID narrative. Their testimony has now gone mainstream. If you are an Orthodox leader, you need to listen to them. Change course now, before you have no credibility left.
Key points according to Dr. McCullough:
- Hydroxychloroquine, in combination with other drugs, usually works well in EARLY COVID to prevent hospitalization at a dose of 200 mg twice daily for 5-30 days. Dr. McCollough also talks about Ivermectin. Early treatment is essential to preventing hospitalizations and deaths. The 4-letter government agencies actively fought against early treatment protocols to preserve the ability of “vaccine” makers to get EUA for the jabs. (More on that here if you prefer to read about it.)
- We are living through a Mass Psychosis that has been achieved through the following four steps:
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- Prolonged isolation
- Removal of enjoyments
- Constant anxiety
- A single solution (vaccine) offered by authority figure
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- Four Pillars to Any Pandemic Response (but we only got vaccines which are not very safe or effective):
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- Reduce spread by (i) improving airflow and using (ii) ORAL-NASAL VIROCIDAL THERAPY (hand sanitizing does nothing) ORAL NASAL VIROCIDAL THERAPY HAS HELPED THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES CONTROL THE PANDEMIC: Make it at home as follows: 2 Teaspoons of Betadine (buy at drug store without Rx) mixed in 6 oz of water. Use it as a sinus rinse and then gargle & spit or spray it into your nose with a sprayer or syringe, snort it back and spit it out through your mouth and gargle & spit with the rest. Do this at the end of every day after coming in contact with people. In RCT, this has been shown to reduce disease by 75%.(iii) In Randomized Controlled Trials, masks don’t work. 18% of air moved in and through the surgical masks which filter out objects that are 3 microns in size. The virus is 1 micron in size. Masks only stop the spread of big coughs and sneezes.
- Improve early HOME BASED treatment with McCullough’s protocol, or with Monoclonal Antibodies which are available here in Toronto. You have to get them by day 8 of your infection with COVID. No referral necessary. Call and arrange your own appointment. Currently, they are only treating the unvaccinated (which is too bad) and the vaxxed who are immunocompromised because of limited supply, but they hope to expand to the vaxxed as well in future. Whether you are vaxxed or unvaxxed, if you have COVID, please give them a call. Monoclonal Antibodies are available in most American States, especially Florida. Note Not in Interview:Inexplicably, however, it appears that the Biden Administration is attempting to suppress this effective treatment. Florida Surgeon General Joseph A. Ladopo recently sent a searing letter to the Biden administration’s Secretary of Health and Human Services, Xavier Becerra, accusing the Biden administration of “actively preventing the effective distribution of monoclonal antibody treatments in the U.S.”
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- Virus is NOT spread asymptomatically, but only form sick person to susceptible person. False positive PCR testing is 97% in asymptomatic people. Early on in the pandemic, influenza tested positive for COVID-19 (This completely destroys the case for mandatory masking, even if masks were effective.)
- JAMA publication in autumn of 2021 published a paper which showed that among hospitalized COVID patients, the mortality in vaccinated patients was 6.3% and in unvaccinated patients 8.6%. The p value shows no statistically significant difference between these stats. (No, the jabs won’t protect you from hospitalization or death.)
- Vaccine efficacy “falls off a cliff” after 6 months of vaccination BUT there have been no cases of repeat COVID infections after COVID illness. A COVID infection renders you immune for life. This bears true despite the false talking points of some media sources. CDC was unable to find one case of a repeat COVID infection. Studies done on Sars-Cov-1 infections shows that immunity lasts a lifetime and Sars-Cov-2 is the same. McCullough’s data and testimony to this effect have been steadily reversing vaccine mandates in the US. 200 million people have already had COVID and should not be vaccinated. Three studies have shown that vaccinating people who have already had COVID is more harmful than beneficial.
- Obesity and COVID-19 – Cytokine storm is led by interleukin 6, which is also produced by human fat cells, so the fattier a person is, the higher the risk of a cytokine storm. (We Orthodox should really be encouraging fasting and healthier lifestyles in accordance with God’s Will.)
- D-dimer testing during early COVID illness is a good indicator of developing blood clots. (More on that here.)
- Vaccine injury and death – Before COVID vaccines, there were in the USA 150 deaths from 278,000,000 vaccines all totaled. This was the safety benchmark. As of January 22, 2021, 27,000,000 COVID vaccine shots resulted in 182 deaths which is a much higher proportion of deaths. A drug is usually taken off the market after 50 deaths. To date, there have been 18,000 COVID vaccine deaths in US and 30,000 permanently vaccine disabled people. Also, 30,000 cases of myocarditis in US to date due to vaccine. VAERS is currently underreported about 4-5X. (This article features a nurse describing what it is like to deal with VAERS and why so few reactions are actually reported.)
- Concerns with re-vaccination – Vaccine seeds all over the body due to the lipid nanoparticles. There is progressive accumulation of spike protein if vaccine is administered every 6 months. Vaccines do give some protection but the evidence is not compelling enough to mandate them in people according to McCullough.
- Paper published in the Lancet – There is NO data that vaccines protect OTHERS. 39% of transmission in Lancet Paper took place from fully vaxxed to fully vaxxed! And omicron originated in the vaccinated. (Taking the jabs will not protect others. It is a false narrative. Potentially harming yourself will not protect your “neighbor.”)
- Transmissibility – Wuhan variant was a (2), Delta variant was a (10) and Omicron variant is a (4), therefore less transmissible than delta. Omicron is believed to have arisen from genetic errors. There are 37 mutations on the spike protein, 6 deletions and 1 insertion. 16 of the 37 are surge mutations (happened very suddenly). So far, Omicron is a milder disease. Let’s hope it stays that way. According to news reports, in the UK, where restrictions have not been augmented due to the Omicron variant, mortality is about 0.7%. Mortality in other areas where restrictions have been increased is about 0.1% Please compare this with the Canadian Mortality data of seasonal influenza which is 1.0%
To learn more, we recommend watching additional videos from Dr. McCullough and signing up for our upcoming COVID Webinar. Coming 01/09/2022 at 7 p.m. Eastern, the Webinar will feature a panel discussion of the moral, legal, and medical issues surrounding COVID and the jabs. Registration is limited, so please click here for more information.
If I attended a metropolitan hiearchial liturgy and nearly nobody showed up, I’d for sure wear a mask just to hide my embarrassment. Is this for real? And the choir singing with masks? On what planet does that work? If I were a priest or bishop in this jurisdiction and somebody asked, I would deny I had clue who these people were, I would say it was in Russia (sorry Russian brethren) or something. This is beyond embarrassing.
https://www.facebook.com/orthodoxchurchinamerica/photos/pcb.4900854209953176/4900849106620353/
Please forgive me for being so insulting in the previous comment (above). Let me take another shot to smooth things out a bit.
If anybody asked me who these people were, I would say, “No, these people are not Orthodox–by any stretch of the imagination–,they are Episcopalians–because that is what they have become.
My apologies to the Russians (Americans blame Russians for everything–right?–, its a bad cultural habit). No Russian hierarch would ever embarrass the Orthodox world with such debasement of the liturgy. They have no clue what they are doing. And then to take pictures of it…(makes me shiver to think about it).
Sorry, but your apology is wasted. You weren’t insulting at all. It was kind of refreshing to read. 🙂
John,
You write:
‘If anybody asked me who these people were, I would say, “No, these people are not Orthodox–by any stretch of the imagination–,they are Episcopalians–because that is what they have become.’
That is outrageous presumptuousness. You are in no position to define anyone out of the Church.
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Surely you recognize when someone is describing what something appears to be.
Describing the appearance of something or someone is not at all the same thing as defining what or who it is.
Not sure my last comment went through. So I’ll try again.
It surprises me that you don’t recognize the difference between describing something as it appears and defining it, Manfred Meyer.
Ronda,
That surprises me, too.
John’s statement that I quoted was:
‘If anybody asked me who these people were, I would say, “No, these people are not Orthodox–by any stretch of the imagination–,they are Episcopalians–because that is what they have become.’
I mistakenly assumed that the phrase: “because that it what they have become”, did not just refer to the appearance, and that the statement: “these people are not Orthodox”, defines them as not being Orthodox.
Low blood pressure. Some more coffee, and my recognition will improve.
When I was in college I had to take (bone-head we called it) remedial English. One of our assignments was to do a book report every week. One of my first choices was Gulliver’s Travels. From that point on I fell in love with this kind of satire. Swift–the author–depicted the royalty of England as very degenerate animalistic people known as Yahoos. Even the horses–Hoymanims (sp)were more dignified.
I am not technically putting them out of the Church, I am unable to do that. However, my depictions convey a message through satire. What they are doing is NOT classic Orthodox behavior; they have dishonored Christ (the Eucharist) by masking before it and even taking close pictures of the elements on the altar (all for show). By restricting attendance, they again have dishonored Christ in the members. And by advocating for the vaccine, they, again, have dishonored Christ in each human body by making Christ members with the vaccine.
While on the surface this looks Orthodox, any and all Church Fathers would never have put up with such dishonor of Christ–the Chalice, the members, and the human body. They easily could have been defined as heretics because the do such violence to the Holy Things.
John,
Are the people on that photograph which you referred to in your comment
a) Orthodox
b) non-Orthodox
c) Orthodox, but to a lesser degree than John Lee?
Hey, John. I think Manfred doesn’t like me replying to him. He has made it impossible.
And here I was so impressed with his humility for a bit there.
I think St. John of Kronstad summed this up nicely:
“As God is life, and diseases and maladies are a deviation from life, therefore the touch alone of the first Source of Life cures us of them. This is why the Saviour, Who is the Life of all, cured and still cures men by His touch alone. The same may be said of the change in any contagious objects — at a single sign or single word of the Creator and Founder of everything, they become harmless…”
I can’t fathom how Orthodox Christians can stand the sights that are seen now in naves. People masking in fear. Signs directing those who are vaxxed to one section, and those who are not to another.
How is it acceptable to any person who has been baptized and chrismated and has received the Eucharist in the past to have Orthodox worship disfigured and dishonered as it has been now for so long?
“The supposed ubiquitous use of aborted fetal cells was a key line of defense of the jabs by Orthodox physician Dr. Ryan Sampson Nash in his interviews with Ancient Faith Radio.”
To kick off the new year, Ancient Faith Radio might want to ask Father John Parker to conduct a special in-depth interview with Dr. Ryan Sampson Nash’s (https://online.osu.edu/ryan-nash-md-ma) younger brother:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TNaT5A-1gHc
Not only SARS-COV2 vaccines pose a moral hazard for Orthodox Christians. Monoclonal antibody therapies use aborted fetal tissue of various types; there is a direct link to the abortion industry (Note also the reference links below the podcast):
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021/12/29/barnhardt-podcast-163-moloch-vs-the-innocents/
There are many newer cell lines so that old cell argument is ridiculous. Many are also touting the Sputnik but they also have tested on fetal cells as well.
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Well, I appreciate very much the courage it takes to post stuff like this. Please don’t give up! I am reposting whereever I can.
Oh, I see. Judaizing ….Did ANYONE read Scripture today ? !
Oh my gosh.
Who is this person anyway? 🙂
Does not matter as he / she is now blocked.
Yuck. Lord have mercy. I can NOT “share” because of your links and references from “But don’t take our word for it”. WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU ? You keep ending with a sick trip down your own BLIND, engineered (by the father-of-lies) paths. Lord have mercy on us all .
Huh?
What is the matter with who? What is the matter with you that you must make ugly smears against the people who run this blog?
Yes, indeed, Lord have mercy.
Dr. McCullough is engineered by the father of lies? What are you talking about?
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-ethics-of-using-medical-data-from-nazi-experiments
The argument that there are not cells from aborted babies in these shots –whether that is true not not– is akin to saying that it is morally acceptable to rely on publish the scientific data gleaned by the Nazis in their experimentation on Jewish children for modern research because those children are already dead.
B. Siegel, Can Evil Beget Good? Nazi Data: A Dilemma for Science, Los Angeles Times, Sunday, October 30, 1988
K. Moe, Should the Nazi Research Data be Cited? Hasting Center Report, December, 1984 pp 5-7
M. Sun, EPA Bars Use of Nazi Data, Science Magazine, American Association for the Advancement of Science, April 1, 1988, Volume 240, Number 4848