Q & A on the War in Ukraine

Rather than continue to post answers to common questions / objections we encounter on social media, several contributors have collaborated to provide answers in the form of a post that we can share.


1) Do you approve of Putin’s brutal invasion of Ukraine?

Being anti-war as a matter of principle, we are not in favor of this invasion and feel it should end immediately. Who can support war and suffering? However, we also understand that the only chance to end the war is a negotiated settlement. That means NATO (really the US) must stop prolonging this war, and free Zelensky up to make a deal to stop the killing. At the same time it is incumbent on Westerners, particularly Americans, to understand our own complicity in igniting this crisis. This blood is on our hands as well. We also must acknowledge that we encouraged the Ukrainian military escalation against the Donbass on 2/16 that started this phase of what is really an 8 year war.

The quote below is from Jacques Baud, a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, and a specialist on Eastern countries.  His recent article explaining the true background of the war and its current conduct should be required reading for anyone wanting to comment on the War in Ukraine. It was originally quoted by Orthodox Reflections contributor Vassily here.

The Ukrainian artillery bombardment of the Donbass population continued, and, on 23 February, the two Republics asked for military assistance from Russia. On 24 February, Vladimir Putin invoked Article 51 of the United Nations Charter, which provides for mutual military assistance in the framework of a defensive alliance.

 

In order to make the Russian intervention seem totally illegal in the eyes of the public, Western powers deliberately hid the fact that the war actually started on February 16. The Ukrainian army was preparing to attack the Donbass as early as 2021, as some Russian and European intelligence services were well aware.

 

In his speech of February 24, Vladimir Putin stated the two objectives of his operation: “demilitarize” and “denazify” the Ukraine. So, it was not a question of taking over Ukraine, nor even, presumably, of occupying it; and certainly not of destroying it.

 

The dramatic developments we are witnessing today have causes that we knew about but refused to see:

  • on the strategic level, the expansion of NATO (which we have not dealt with here);
  • on the political level, the Western refusal to implement the Minsk Agreements;
  • operationally, the continuous and repeated attacks on the civilian population of the Donbass over the past years and the dramatic increase in late February 2022.

In other words, we can naturally deplore and condemn the Russian attack. But WE (that is: the United States, France and the European Union in the lead) have created the conditions for a conflict to break out. We show compassion for the Ukrainian people and the two million refugees. That is fine. But if we had had a modicum of compassion for the same number of refugees from the Ukrainian populations of Donbass massacred by their own government and who sought refuge in Russia for eight years, none of this would probably have happened.

2) What is your proof that Russia can’t project nukes all over the world w/ ICBMs & submarines?

Russia is straining to project power even into Western Ukraine. The logistics of supporting a combined arms force under fire and on the move are tough. That is not at all the same as deploying nukes. The recklessness of Western leaders, and many civilians, in advocating policies of direct military confrontation with Russia is suicidal. The same people who lecture us on saving the world from Climate Change seem strangely okay with the prospect of nuclear annihilation.

3) Projecting power is not Putin’s goal?

War is a continuation of politics by other means. While Westerners may not read Clausewitz any more, Russians certainly do. Putin is absolutely using military force to leverage an agreement. It is not necessary to destroy Ukraine or occupy it to get the terms he wants. Ukraine is going to give him those terms sooner or later. Much better sooner.

These are the terms:

  • No nukes for the Ukraine
  • No NATO for the Ukraine
  • No alliances of any kind and a neutral Ukraine
  • Give up any claims on Crimea and the Donbass

Putin is obviously willing to leave Zelensky in power, but with a drastically changed military and political situation codified in a lasting peace agreement. Putin is focused on obtaining a negotiated solution between secular governments. Putin will kill no more people and destroy no more property than necessary to get the deal he believes is in the best interests of Russia. Russia’s enemy is a neighboring country with a shared history and common religion. Mass murder and occupation are, to say the least, counter productive to long-term, regional stability.

4) Ordering Ukraine not to make alliances is proper?

“Proper” doesn’t figure into it. This is pure Great Power politics and the US would not behave any differently. This is a fallen world, and large powers pushing around smaller countries is a feature of that fallen world. We explored that here (key quote below):

The US would never tolerate a hostile regime in Mexico. Any thinking person knows that. An anti-American government would never be allowed to survive on our border. We usually don’t tolerate anti-American regimes anywhere in Latin America, no matter how far away. Remember Cuba with decades of sanctions and an actual invasion at the Bay of Pigs? Remember the attempted coup in Venezuela? Or the war against Nicaragua in the 80’s with the US-funded Contras? How about the coup in Chile in 1973? Chile is over 4,000 miles from Washington, D.C. Yet, the US installed a blood-soaked military junta to rule the place, being unwilling to accept a democratically elected socialist government.

Pretending the world is otherwise than it is gets innocent people slaughtered. Ukraine was never going to be allowed to join NATO, any more than the US would allow Chinese troops in Mexico. The US would wreck Mexico completely before allowing that. If you want a good lesson on Great Power politics and Ukraine, we recommend the lecture below:

You might also want to consult the following map for what happened last time the US had a hostile regime on its border:

5) Putin has a peace offer instead of a piece offer?

This is from the Colonel Jacque Baud article:

Let’s try to examine the roots of the conflict. It starts with those who for the last eight years have been talking about “separatists” or “independentists” from Donbass. This is not true. The referendums conducted by the two self-proclaimed Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk in May 2014, were not referendums of “independence” (независимость), as some unscrupulous journalists have claimed, but referendums of “self-determination” or “autonomy” (самостоятельность). The qualifier “pro-Russian” suggests that Russia was a party to the conflict, which was not the case, and the term “Russian speakers” would have been more honest. Moreover, these referendums were conducted against the advice of Vladimir Putin.

 

In fact, these Republics were not seeking to separate from Ukraine, but to have a status of autonomy, guaranteeing them the use of the Russian language as an official language. For the first legislative act of the new government resulting from the overthrow of President Yanukovych, was the abolition, on February 23, 2014, of the Kivalov-Kolesnichenko law of 2012 that made Russian an official language. A bit like if putschists decided that French and Italian would no longer be official languages in Switzerland.

Prior to 8 years of war and two violated peace agreements, the Donbass was willing to stay in Ukraine as long as their rights were respected. That is over now. Ukraine will have to cede the Donbass. At any point Kiev could have chosen to honor Minsk I & II protocols, but under pressure from NATO, that did not happen. Territorial concessions are the price to be paid now. As for Crimea, that has been gone since 2014, and before that the naval base was leased to Russia anyway. Expect Ukraine to potentially lose more of its sea coast.

6) Putin would keep any treaty it makes w/ Ukraine?

At this point, Putin will not make a deal with Ukraine that is not in Russia’s interests. Whatever agreement is formalized, Russia will keep. If they won’t keep it, they won’t agree to it.

7) Putin is just in violating agreement made w/ Ukraine when Ukraine gave up its nukes?

A big part of that deal was the promise that NATO would not expand eastward. Russia did not violate that covenant, NATO did. On February 19, 2022, at a conference in Munich, Zelensky announced his intention to end the Budapest Memorandum (1994), which prohibits Ukraine from developing, proliferating and using atomic weapons. This was no idle threat and set off alarms in Moscow. If you add that statement to the escalation in military force against the Donbass plus the continued desire to put Ukraine in NATO – you get this war.

8) Putin is demanding Donbass?

Putin never wanted the Donbass. More poor Russians to take care of is not attractive. From Colonel Jacques Baud:

In 2014, when I was at NATO, I was responsible for the fight against the proliferation of small arms, and we were trying to detect Russian arms deliveries to the rebels, to see if Moscow was involved. The information we received then came almost entirely from Polish intelligence services and did not “fit” with the information coming from the OSCE—despite rather crude allegations, there were no deliveries of weapons and military equipment from Russia.

 

The rebels were armed thanks to the defection of Russian-speaking Ukrainian units that went over to the rebel side. As Ukrainian failures continued, tank, artillery and anti-aircraft battalions swelled the ranks of the autonomists. This is what pushed the Ukrainians to commit to the Minsk Agreements.

 

But just after signing the Minsk 1 Agreements, the Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko launched a massive anti-terrorist operation (ATO/Антитерористична операція) against the Donbass. Bis repetita placent: poorly advised by NATO officers, the Ukrainians suffered a crushing defeat in Debaltsevo, which forced them to engage in the Minsk 2 Agreements.

 

It is essential to recall here that Minsk 1 (September 2014) and Minsk 2 (February 2015) Agreements did not provide for the separation or independence of the Republics, but their autonomy within the framework of Ukraine. Those who have read the Agreements (there are very, very, very few of those who actually have) will note that it is written in all letters that the status of the Republics was to be negotiated between Kiev and the representatives of the Republics, for an internal solution to the Ukraine.

 

That is why since 2014, Russia has systematically demanded their implementation while refusing to be a party to the negotiations, because it was an internal matter of the Ukraine. On the other side, the West—led by France—systematically tried to replace the Minsk Agreements with the “Normandy format,” which put Russians and Ukrainians face-to-face. However, let us remember that there were never any Russian troops in the Donbass before 23-24 February 2022. Moreover, OSCE observers have never observed the slightest trace of Russian units operating in the Donbass. For example, the U.S. intelligence map published by the Washington Post on December 3, 2021 does not show Russian troops in the Donbass.

9) Not having the word “empire” in a peace offer implies Putin does not want one?

There is no doubt that in his perfect world, Putin would reclaim many territories lost in the early 90’s. Putin does not live in that world. He is smart enough to know that. Plus, what does an empire give you? Russia was a massive empire, so was the Soviet Union. Both fell into ruin. Putin is typically cautious, and aware that conflict with the US means risking nuclear war. Inside Russia, Putin is frequently criticized by nationalists for not being aggressive enough. Want regime change in Russia? Then understand the results can be far worse than Putin.

10) Urkraine has mere “claims” on Crimea & Donbass like Argentina does on the Malvinas or Spain may have on Gibralter or Guatemala on Belize?

Let’s take a look at Ukrainian borders, shall we?

Ukrainian nationalism dates back to the 19th century. Prior to the wave of nationalism sweeping Europe at that time, “Ukraine” had no real sense of itself. Nor did it develop one overnight. So the Donbass region which is primarily Russian speaking was appended to the Ukrainian SSR by Lenin. Why should modern residents of Donbass have to abide by the decision of a dead commie? The Crimea was given to Ukraine by Khrushchev in 1954. Again, why must the residents of Crimea (mostly Russians) have to abide by the will of a dead commie? Ukraine is similar to the countries in Africa. The borders were drawn by colonial powers, and were not adjusted following independence. African nations struggle with internal and external wars over their nonsense borders. So does Ukraine. Notice also the section taken from Poland by Stalin, in exchange for giving Poland a slice of Germany? Not fair, was it? But the Poles had to get over, so did the Germans.

As noted, the Donbass was originally willing to stay in the Ukrainian state. That time has ended, and Kiev’s brutality is what ended it.

11) Putin with his nuclear bomb threats does not pose a problem to NATO & USA? USA should not suspect that Putin is insane enough to start a nuclear war?

A little history is in order. The US actually invented nuclear brinkmanship:

Brinkmanship is the ostensible escalation of threats to achieve one’s aims. The word was probably coined by the American politician Adlai Stevenson in his criticism of the philosophy described as “going to the brink” during an interview with US Secretary of State John Foster Dulles during the Eisenhower administration.[2] In the article written in Life magazine by the correspondent James R. Shepley, Dulles defined his policy of brinkmanship in these terms: “The ability to get to the verge without getting into the war is the necessary art.”[3][4] During the Cold War, it was used as a policy by the United States to coerce the Soviet Union into backing down militarily. Eventually, the threats involved might become so huge as to be unmanageable at which point both sides are likely to back down. That was the case during the Cold War since the escalation of threats of nuclear war, if carried out, are likely to lead to mutual assured destruction (MAD).[5]

 

Thomas Schelling defined brinkmanship as “manipulating the shared risk of war.”[6] The essence of such a crisis is that it leads neither side to be in full control of events, which creates a serious risk of miscalculation and escalation.[6]

Use of incendiary rhetoric to shake your opponent is nothing new, and is actually an American specialty. America has done it for decades, though few Americans notice. When Putin and his regime turn up the heat, it is to remind America that a direct conflict with Russia will get out of hand very quickly. The US is actually the one escalating tensions by abandoning a “no first use” policy for nukes:

President Joe Biden has walked back from his longtime preferred policy of “no first use” of nuclear weapons, according to his administration’s 2022 Nuclear Posture Review, which also seeks to shrink nuclear arsenals, starting with a new missile introduced under Donald Trump.

 

His long-awaited policy review says the United States “would only consider the use of nuclear weapons in extreme circumstances to defend the vital interests of the United States or its allies and partners,” according to a three-paragraph summary released by the Pentagon Tuesday.

Putin is not insane and is not interested in a nuclear war. The people that worry us most are in Washington. They seem to believe that use of nukes can be viable in a conflict.

But we need to look at this another way also. Even if Putin were insane, what are we going to do about it? If your opponent has nukes and is unstable, the last think you want to do is keep setting up conflicts with him. If you think “regime change” in Russia is going to happen, then think again. Even if it did, the replacement Russian regime could be even more of a problem.

12) Non-funding of Russia implies Russia is not our problem?

The past few days, images have circulated of Russian soldiers with Nazi tattoos or sporting Nazi regalia. The fact that there could be Nazis in Russia is somehow supposed to offset the Nazis in Ukraine. The key difference for Americans? We don’t fund Russian Nazis. Our tax dollars do not pay for Russian Nazis to kill and maim civilians. Our tax dollars do not arm Russian Nazis with weapons that will eventually end up in the hands of extremists all over Europe.

You can’t do good by doing evil. Ukraine is an authoritarian regime in which 40% of its armed forces are Nazis. If we had stayed out of that cesspool, none of this would be happening and the Russian Nazis could have stayed home.

13) If Putin & his friends mimic Nazi Hitler in philosophy, that is not our issue?

Mimic, how? Putin is the new Hitler. But how is he the new Hitler? Saddam was the new Hitler. Trump was the new Hitler. Calling people “Hitler” at this point is the same as calling them “racist.” There is just no meaning there anymore. The words have been used to death. People who say such things about Putin do not understand Fascism (Italian, Spanish, and German varieties), don’t understand the history leading up to WWII, and don’t have a clue what really drove the Third Reich.

What about anti-Semitism in Russia, though? Russia’s chief rabbi has stated that anti-Semitism is at a historic low. Putin was the first Russian leader to visit Israel. He is reputed to have Jewish ancestry. Putin has had a reputation as being a “pro-Jewish” leader.

14) Ukraine with its Jewish president has a significant Nazi problem?

Non-practicing Jewish president, by the way. Prior to the media needing to cover it up, the Nazi problem was widely acknowledged:

Zelensky can’t control the Nazis and they know this. Over time he has proven sufficiently pliable and even supportive. The paymasters in the West backed Zelensky, and his Jewish background makes good PR. So while the Nazis are virulently anti-Semitic, Zelensky gets a pass:

While Western media deploys Volodymyr Zelensky’s Jewish heritage to refute accusations of Nazi influence in Ukraine, the president has ceded to neo-Nazi forces and now depends on them as front line fighters.

 

Back in October 2019, as the war in eastern Ukraine dragged on, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky traveled to Zolote, a town situated firmly in the “gray zone” of Donbas, where over 14,000 had been killed, mostly on the pro-Russian side. There, the president encountered the hardened veterans of extreme right paramilitary units keeping up the fight against separatists just a few miles away.

 

Elected on a platform of de-escalation of hostilities with Russia, Zelensky was determined to enforce the so-called Steinmeier Formula conceived by then-German Foreign Minister Walter Steinmeier which called for elections in the Russian-speaking regions of Donetsk and Lugansk.

 

In a face-to-face confrontation with militants from the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion who had launched a campaign to sabotage the peace initiative called “No to Capitulation,” Zelensky encountered a wall of obstinacy.

 

With appeals for disengagement from the frontlines firmly rejected, Zelensky melted down on camera. “I’m the president of this country. I’m 41 years old. I’m not a loser. I came to you and told you: remove the weapons,” Zelensky implored the fighters.

 

This February 24, when Russian President Vladimir Putin sent troops into Ukrainian territory on a stated mission to “demilitarize and denazify” the country, US media embarked on a mission of its own: to deny the power of neo-Nazi paramilitaries over the country’s military and political sphere. As the US government-funded National Public Radio insisted, “Putin’s language [about denazification] is offensive and factually wrong.”

 

In its bid to deflect from the influence of Nazism in contemporary Ukraine, US media has found its most effective PR tool in the figure of Zelensky, a former TV star and comedian from a Jewish background. It is a role the actor-turned-politician has eagerly assumed.

 

But as we will see, Zelensky has not only ceded ground to the neo-Nazis in his midst, he has entrusted them with a front line role in his country’s war against pro-Russian and Russian forces.

The president’s Jewishness as Western media PR device 

Hours before President Putin’s February 24 speech declaring denazification as the goal of Russian operations, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky “asked how a people who lost eight million of its citizens fighting Nazis could support Nazism,” according to the BBC.

 

Raised in a non-religious Jewish family in the Soviet Union during the 1980’s, Zelensky has downplayed his heritage in the past. “The fact that I am Jewish barely makes 20 in my long list of faults,” he joked during a 2019 interview in which he declined to go into further detail about his religious background.

 

Today, as Russian troops bear down on cities like Mariupol, which is effectively under the control of the Azov Battalion, Zelensky is no longer ashamed to broadcast his Jewishness. “How could I be a Nazi?” he wondered aloud during a public address. For a US media engaged in an all-out information war against Russia, the president’s Jewish background has become an essential public relations tool.

 

Behind the corporate media spin lies the complex and increasingly close relationship Zelensky’s administration has enjoyed with the neo-Nazi forces invested with key military and political posts by the Ukrainian state, and the power these open fascists have enjoyed since Washington installed a Western-aligned regime through a coup in 2014.

 

In fact, Zelensky’s top financial backer, the Ukrainian Jewish oligarch Igor Kolomoisky, has been a key benefactor of the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion and other extremists militias.

The Nazis have no issue threatening Zelensky when he doesn’t conform to their expectations, which probably explains his increasing ties to them over the past few years:

Thus, the ultra-nationalists gained a firmer foothold, by the fact that they were the ones who went to the ATO, the ones willing to continue fighting in Donbass. Add in a perpetual fear that these groups could turn against the government or officials, as recently evidenced by the 1st of December 2021 protests, no official is willing to confront them. This shows the extent of the influence and power that they can wield. For instance, Dmytro Yarosh, the founder of Right Sector publicly threatened Zelensky in an interview that he would hang from a tree.

So he may be Jewish, but he can’t control them. They control him, and in the past year he has more and more “gone native” in relying on them and catering to them.

As noted above, Zelensky is also backed by the same Oligarch who paid bounties for dead Ukrainian civilians and financially backs Azov:

There are actual mass graves in the Donbas full of Ukrainian Nazi victims. There is also public testimony linking the Ukrainian government and Ukrainian oligarchs to those killings. Sergey Litvinov, a captured Ukrainian soldier from the ‘Dnepr’ battalion, admitted to killing civilians including women and children in the villages Melovoye, Shiroky, Makarovo and Kamushnoye. Litvinov said he received  money for the killings from his leadership sponsored by Ihor Kolomoysky, the Kiev-appointed Dnepropetrovsk governor and oligarch who was the owner of Burisma, the energy company which appointed Hunter Biden to its boardKolomysky was also the primary financial backer of Ukrainian President Zelensky.

 

Zelensky’s campaign was 100% supported by The Servant of the People party (same name as in his TV show) which actually “has fewer donors than deputies in the parliamentary faction (248 people).” The main supporter was oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky – funder of Nazis who was fingered as paying bounties for the murder of civilians in Eastern Ukraine. His television station 1+1 hosted Zelensky’s hit show, in which he played the president of Ukraine.  Kolomoisky’s media outlet provided security and logistical backup for the comedian’s campaign. Zelensky’s legal counsel, Andrii Bohdan, was the oligarch’s personal lawyer. Kolomoisky is currently in exile, splitting time between Geneva and Tel Aviv. Investigative journalists reported that Zelensky traveled 14 times in the past two years to those locations to see the oligarch.

This is not the Third Reich. The Nazis in Ukraine may be anti-Semitic, but that pales in comparison to their anti-Russian hatred.

14) Speaking of Ukrainian Nazis is anything other than absurd pro-Putin propaganda?

40 percent of the Ukrainian armed forces are paramilitary militias frequently referred to as “Nazis.” These militias are violent, ultranationalist, virulently anti-Semitic (though they give Zelensky a pass for practical reasons), fanatical and brutal. These men hate the Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine. The best known is the Azov Regiment. These militias have been guilty of numerous crimes against civilian populations since 2014: rape, torture, massacres, using civilians as human shields, and more.

Such Nazis serve in the Rada (parliament) and dominant the Ukrainian military / security apparatus at all levels.

The situation is quite real.

16) USA funds Nazis?

This is from the same article referenced earlier from Colonel Jacques Baud:

On February 27, the Ukrainian government agreed to enter into negotiations with Russia. But a few hours later, the European Union voted a budget of 450 million euros to supply arms to the Ukraine, adding fuel to the fire. From then on, the Ukrainians felt that they did not need to reach an agreement. The resistance of the Azov militia in Mariupol even led to a boost of 500 million euros for weapons.

Yes, we fund Nazis.

17) Non-existent Ukrainian Nazis are USA problem?

As noted, prior to February 2022, the Western media routinely covered stories of Zelensky’s corruption and the Nazi problem in Ukraine. Even now, MSM sources admit that Azov is a Nazi fighting force, even while downplaying the widespread Nazi presence in the country.

18) Should I ask you if you have read Putin’s extreme regret statements on USSR having broken up? Should I tell you “Obviously, you didn’t”?

We read Putin’s speeches all the time, along with sermons by Patriarch Kirill. It is never so much what either of them say, as it is how what they say is misinterpreted by the Western media. Putin does voice sentimental feelings for when Russia was more powerful and more respected. If Putin had been in charge in the early 90’s, he might have tried to hold the former Soviet Union together. Patriarch Kirill often talks about the cultural links between the successor peoples of the “Holy Rus’.”

But Putin wasn’t in charge, and the world is very different now. None of us has ever seen a speech in which Putin declares he wants to absorb Ukaine, or Poland, or any other independent country. Doing so is beyond his economic and military capabilities, even if he wanted to. The problem is that most people don’t even read translations of Putin’s speeches. They simply read Western propaganda about what Putin says.

19) Are these Russian Orthodox reflections? What makes your reflections definable as orthodox?

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